Ep 12 | TRANSCRIPT



00:00.970

ANNOUNCER

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00:22.050

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01:09.130

NARRATOR

In October of 2011, 4 college students disappeared in the woods near Porter Township Pennsylvania while researching a documentary on children’s author Jakob Stanley. They remain missing to this day. Last month their recordings appeared online. In an effort to aid in the investigation, the families of those missing have agreed to release the following sound files. If anyone has information on those missing or the identity of the person or persons who uploaded these files, please use the contact information provided. Anything submitted may be used in future episodes. Certain materials referenced in this podcast, including the published works of Jakob Stanley, are currently protected under U.S. copyright law and may be redacted. For legal reasons, some names have been withheld and voices altered. The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the podcasters and participants, and do not represent the official policy or position of the Iphigenia County Police Department of Porter Township Pennsylvania or its associates. This podcast contains adult themes and language. Listener discretion is advised.


02:18.710

PROFESSOR WHITAKER

Warning: This episode discusses suicide. For support and resources, please contact the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline or your local crisis center. Folder labeled: “012 Rough Cut, Episode 12 - Tell Me a Story: The True Life of Jakob Stanley.”


PODCAST INTRO SEQUENCE


02:45.030

NEWS ANNOUNCER

WN [BEEP REDACTED] TV New York.


MUSIC: [80’s NEWS INTRO THEME]


NEWS ANCHOR ‘83

If your child has been to a school book fair recently, chances are they came home with one of this author’s scary books-


MUSIC: [80’s SUNDAY TALK SHOW THEME]


SUNDAY MORNING TALK SHOW HOST ‘81

Our guest’s first anthology leapt to the top of the New York Times Best Sellers list -


MUSIC: [LATE NIGHT TALK SHOW INTRO APPLAUSE]


LATE NIGHT TALK SHOW HOST ‘86

- Thank you. Thank you! Over the past few years, he has become a household name -


MUSIC: [PODCAST THEME]


PUBLIC RADIO HOST ‘92

- Bridging the gap between Alvin Schwartz and Stephen King -


TV PREACHER

- The devil is among us, friends.


CONGREGATION

AMEN!


TV PREACHER

He’s among us, in the form of a writer. -


SUNDAY MORNING TALK SHOW HOST ‘81

- The book might have struggled during it initial release in 1977, but now “Tell Me A Story: Under the Bed That’s Over My Head”, has skyrocketed -


ALSC COMMITTEE REP

- So many parent organizations complained that his work was too sophisticated for children-


TV PREACHER

- He has infiltrated your homes, and your children’s minds-


PUBLIC RADIO HOST ‘92

- His second macabre anthology “Tell Me A Story: Moonless Sky and Other Friends” sold out from bookstores in mere minutes. Becoming a controversial -


NEWS ANCHOR ‘83

- Stanley's books ranked on the American Library Association’s “100 Most Frequently Challenged Books” from 1981-1993 -


TV PREACHER

- Stanley’s books promote disobedience, violence and the occult! Lord have mercy -


PUBLIC RADIO HOST ‘92

- The 3rd volume in his “Tell Me A Story” collection “The Floor That Creaks, the Closet That Speaks and the Tip Toes That You Walk On” was released in 1986 to mass acclaim -


ALSC COMMITTEE REP

- All that fussing, just made his work more popular -


TV PREACHER

- Check your children’s rooms, check their bookshelves, check their back-packs! -


YOUTUBER

- I do think his final book, released in ‘99, “TMAS: The nightmare, The Dream and the Places Between,” was by far his best work.-


PUBLIC RADIO HOST ‘92

- His work has been described as “subversive” and “dark,” I simply describe it as genius.


SUNDAY MORNING TALK SHOW HOST ‘81

- It is my pleasure to introduce -


LATE NIGHT TALK SHOW HOST ‘86

- Please welcome -


PUBLIC RADIO HOST ‘92

- Ladies and gentleman, please welcome -


SUNDAY MORNING TALK SHOW HOST ‘81

- Jakob Stanley.-


LATE NIGHT TALK SHOW HOST ‘86

- Mister Jakob Stanley.


PUBLIC RADIO HOST ‘92

- Author, Jakob Stanley.


[Applause.]


MUSIC: [POD THEME SYNTH]


AVERY/NARRATOR

Little to nothing is known about the life of this elusive author. And since 1999 Jakob Stanley seems to have completely dropped off the face of the earth. Until a short two-line obituary appeared in a small town paper, over a year ago.


TOLEN/NARRATOR

From BOO Labs and Red Cup Media, I'm Tolen Reid -


AVERY/NARRATOR

And I'm Avery Fischer, this is TELL ME A STORY: THE TRUE LIFE OF JAKOB STANLEY.


SFX: The mic clicks on, no adjustments are made, it just starts. There is a long silence between the team.


05:54.890

AVERY

So.... Is everybody okay?


SFX: Chuck stands up suddenly causing her chair to screech on the floor.


CHUCK

Just going to pee.


SFX: Chuck goes to the bathroom, shutting the door behind her.


AVERY

I mean, you don’t have to be okay, nobody has to be okay, you feel how you feel, but I just... we haven’t - nobody has said anything yet. And I don’t know how anyone else is feeling right now and... I’m sorry.


SFX: The toilet flushes and Chuck comes back into the room and sits back on the chair.


CHUCK

What were you saying?


AVERY

I was just... asking how everyone was.


RJ

I don’t know. I’m in this really weird place of, I guess shock?-


TOLEN

-They accused us of murder. Murder, Avery!


AVERY

I know.


TOLEN

I couldn’t even do frog dissection in bio.


AVERY

I know.


TOLEN

Avery, we meet ducks!


AVERY

I know.


06:58.330

RJ

What?


AVERY

It’s never: “we saw a duck” or “we saw a dog.”


TOLEN

We say “I met a big duck today.” “I met a raccoon.” ... We meet ducks!


RJ

I get it.


CHUCK

What if her ME report had not’ve come in when it did? That’s what I wanna fucking know.


AVERY

We would have gotten arrested. Arrested arrested.


CHUCK

I overheard someone say it might have been suicide?


AVERY

Who said that?


CHUCK

I don’t know. I was inside the interrogation room and someone was talking outside the door.


TOLEN

That place was packed with people from the search party, it could have been anyone.


RJ

Was it suicide?


AVERY

The way they talked to us about it, it definitely didn’t seem like they thought it was suicide.


TOLEN

Yeah, but the cops seemed to be throwing a bunch of random accusations around to see if anything would stick?


CHUCK

And maybe when nothing stuck, they just decided to wrap it up quickly and stamp suicide on it.


RJ

I didn’t even think of suicide.


07:48.550

TOLEN

Could anyone inference anything from their questions?


CHUCK

Inference? We haven’t slept in 2 days. I barely remember my own damn name right now.


RJ

Could Jane have died by suicide?


AVERY

Oh, RJ. ... I mean it, it's possible, but the way they were questioning us... I don’t think so.


TOLEN

I don’t think it was suicide either. If they couldn’t pin it on the “outsiders,” they just didn’t wanna spend any additional effort on it.


CHUCK

Right. Needed to just shut it down.


RJ

Oh my god, was that call from her?


AVERY

What call?


RJ

The morning of the fire? We woke up and the phone was ringing and no one was there? Could that’ve been Jane?


AVERY

Shit, I forgot about that again.


08:30.520

TOLEN

Fuck, me too.


CHUCK

Completely dropped out of my head.


RJ

Do you think that will help the police? Should we go back over there?


AVERY

What, like right now?


TOLEN

RJ we can’t go back over there.


CHUCK

Those locals in the station were seconds away from turning on us.


AVERY

The only thing missing were the pitchforks and torches.


TOLEN

Let’s just get back home. Where we have the safety of distance and lawyers, and then we figure out-


RJ

- But, what if that information could help them right now?


AVERY

Okay, okay, okay, let’s call from the road? Get a bit of a head start, yeah? Then we call? Okay?


RJ

Yeah, okay.


09:02.320

CHUCK

Works for me, let’s pack up the car-


RJ

-Wait, where are the boxes?


AVERY

What boxes? ... Shit? Where are the boxes?


CHUCK

Oh my god? Did the cops-


TOLEN

No, no, no guys-


AVERY

-Oh my God.-


TOLEN

-Nononono, guys. Don’t worry, I did it.


CHUCK

Did what?


AVERY

What did you do?!


TOLEN

I did... that. Uh, remember when we got back and I came up here to set up the interview with Wallace?


AVERY

Barely.


TOLEN

Well, I told him about finding the manuscript, then he told me about Jane and bam that’s when the cops pull up. So, he offered to come get all the Stanley stuff so it couldn’t be confiscated.


CHUCK

Huh, well played.


09:36.790

RJ

But, he didn’t get the manuscript though?


TOLEN

What?


RJ

It’s still here, look.


SFX: RJ crosses to the bedside table and picks up the puzzle box and passes it to Tolen.


SFX: Tolen shakes the box, music box plays


CHUCK

I hate that thing-


TOLEN

Oh thank god, it’s still inside.


AVERY

If it’s inside.


RJ

Why would he take everything except the manuscript?


TOLEN

He probably didn’t know this was it. I just said “manuscript”, he musta’ thought it was in with the other stuff. There wasn’t much time to explain things.


CHUCK

That does look like room decor. Well, for this place anyway.


RJ

Yeah, I wouldn’t have noticed it.


TOLEN

So, we should call him. Right?


10:07.996

CHUCK

I’ll do it.


SFX: Chuck reaches over for the room phone.


TOLEN

No, it’s okay. I can do it.


CHUCK

I said... I’ll do it.


SFX: Chuck starts to dial.


TOLEN

Put it on speaker.


CHUCK

Will you calm down?


TOLEN

Okay, but be sure to ask about the inter-


CHUCK

Tolen. ... Stop.


SFX: Chuck pulls the phone into the bathroom and calls Wallace from there.


TOLEN

Shit! Hold. We really should be recording this.


RJ

It’s already on.


AVERY

What?


RJ

It’s like second nature at this point.


TOLEN

Perfect. Check. Check.


SFX: Tolen adjusts levels.


TOLEN (CONT’D)

Okay, so. Shit. ...I don’t even know how to start.


AVERY

It’s already started.


TOLEN

Uh... ok. We just got released from the police station. It is 6:45 PM... what day is it?


AVERY

No one knows.


TOLEN

Fuck it. We were taken in this morning at approximately 7 AM, after having returned to the Homestead from the Stanley house, upon finding what we think is his long lost manuscript. A manuscript so salacious, it was rejected by his publishers and has remained a buried secret ever since.-


RJ

“Salacious”?


AVERY

Forget it he’s rolling.


10:59.690

TOLEN

- So, for about... 12 hours - Jesus, was it that long? - Ah. We were questioned about the death of Jane Stanley, the niece and only living relative of Jakob Stanley, who has been missing for the past several days. Her body was found in the woods near where Stanley’s FMC camper was parked. And ah, Jane’s ME report came back while we were being questioned, and it evidently showed she died the day they had us in for questioning before.


AVERY

-Bit of luck there.


RJ

AVERY!


AVERY

Sorry. I’m tired.


TOLEN

We don’t know how she died, they didn’t tell us anything. Uh.


AVERY

Don’t forget about the grave robbing.


TOLEN

Right, uh. ... Evidently, Jakob Stanley’s grave was robbed a while ago, which is why when we were there... the side of it was... uh, open? Is that how I should say that?


11:42.900

AVERY

Sure?


TOLEN

So, they were also very curious as to why we went to the graveyard. But, as I said, the second they got Jane’s ME report in, they tossed us outta there.


AVERY

The locals were circling and they didn’t want trouble at the station.


RJ

I’m sorry I told the Trooper about the graveyard, I didn’t think it would be used against us.


SFX: Chuck exits the bathroom and sets the phone back on the dresser. She crosses to the other bed and falls into it.


TOLEN

Well?


CHUCK

So, Wallace said he will bring over the boxes. Oh, and if we want, he’ll even do the interview.


12:15.210

TOLEN

Great!


CHUCK

He’s sorry he missed the manuscript. When he looked through the stuff and realized it wasn’t there, he panicked... whatever the Wallace version of panic is. Anyway, he’s basically down for whatever we need. Even promised us dinner.


TOLEN

Oh, hell yeah!


RJ

Uhm.


AVERY

We don’t have time for dinner.


CHUCK

I will pass out if I don’t get some food before we leave.


TOLEN

And trust me, you want him to bring dinner.


CHUCK

Yeah, you want that. He makes the best [unintelligible yawn] ... I’ve ever had.


12:48.470

AVERY

Okay.


RJ

Did he say when he was gonna get here?


CHUCK

Soon.


AVERY

RJ you good with that?


RJ

... Yeah... I kinda really need food too.


TOLEN

Excellent! So, we should prep for that interview?


AVERY

We really gonna try to do that tonight?


TOLEN

Why not, might as well?


AVERY

Okay.


RJ

The notes are all on this morning’s sound file - just needs to be transcribed. Chuck?


CHUCK

On it.


SFX: Chuck rolls forward, grabs her lap top and starts typing.


RJ

Hey. Wanna review files? Organize the last few days?


AVERY

You read my mind.


SFX: Avery and RJ start collecting memory cards.


RJ

Should check to see if we have anything that could help the police with Jane.


AVERY

Good idea. There could be anything in those sound files.


TOLEN

What should I do?!


AVERY

Uhhh...

SFX: Avery taps on the wooden puzzle box.


AVERY

This. Get to work on opening the box. Even after you figure out the pattern of the puzzle, it will still take forever to get it all the way open. So, focus on that. I guess?


TOLEN

Yes, that’s perfect!


SFX: Tolen starts wrestling with the puzzle box.


RJ

Can you pass me that?


13:41.840

CHUCK

Sure.


SFX: Chuck passes RJ the recorder and the mic clicks off.


SFX: The loud ticking of a massive grandfather clock welcomes us to the Homestead fireplace room. Tolen is madly trying to free the manuscript from the puzzle box.


DEBBIE

What if you-


TOLEN

Hey-hey-hey.


DEBBIE

Sorry, Jesus. Still don’t know why you won’t let me take a hacksaw to that thing.


TOLEN

I don’t want to damage whatever’s inside. I’ll figure it out.


MISS LORETTA

I’m good at puzzles.


TOLEN

I’m sure you are.


RJ

Chuck, where the heck is Wallace?


CHUCK

I don’t know. I thought he would’ve been here by now and we’d already be on the road.


MISS LORETTA

In the state you’re in...?


DEBBIE

You guys need sleep. Just one more night here won’t kill ya, but driving like you are, just might.


MISS LORETTA

Where’s Avery?


14:38.274

CHUCK

Still working on sound files, she hit a flow and couldn’t stop.


RJ

I thought we could maybe find something in the recordings that would help the police with Jane, but I didn’t find anything.


TOLEN

You know what just popped in my head, Jane told us Stanley was married. I completely forgot about that.


DEBBIE

He was married? Oh, lord. Mom, you know about that?


MISS LORETTA

Can’t say I did.


CHUCK

Oh and Deb, get this ... Stanley’s remains have been stolen!


DEBBIE

What the hell?!


TOLEN

IF they were in fact Stanley’s remains.


CHUCK

Right. Fuzzy Melon.


DEBBIE

What?


RJ

Harry Lime.


15:14.682

DEBBIE

That doesn’t help me.


SFX: Avery scurries into the room computer in hand.


AVERY

Guys, you have to listen to this.


MISS LORETTA

Evening, Avery.


AVERY

Uh. Evening, Miss Loretta... Uhm, that day at the quarry...I think someone may have put that hole in our tire.


SFX: Avery sits on the ground and opens her laptop and pulls up a sound file.


RJ

What?!


TOLEN

Shit, that’s right we still have a spare on the car, damn it, how far can you drive on one of those?


CHUCK & DEBBIE

Fifty miles.


AVERY

Just, just listen to this. And bare in mind, I did not record this:


SFX: Avery clicks play, a sound file begins to play.


RJ

(from recording)

I’m sure they’re just cranky from sleep deprivation.


AVERY

(from recording)

Whatever, we haven’t slept either...


CHUCK

What the fuck?


AVERY

(from recording)

You’ve done this before, yes?


RJ

(from recording)

Of course.


RJ (CONT’D)

Oh my God.


TOLEN

What the fuck?


AVERY

(from recording)

Yeah, my dad made me learn how.


RJ

(from recording)

Mine even made me learn how to change the oil... Not that I will ever do that.


AVERY

(from recording)

He always wanted me to learn manual, never did... Wish I got him to teach me. Ha, if my mom had tried to teach me stick, we would have killed each other.


CHUCK

Avery.


RJ

(from recording)

My mom taught me to drive stick... that was not pleasant. In fact, she was not pleasant to ride in a car with, at all.


AVERY

(from recording)

Our mom’s have that in common. My mom was a speed demon. Whenever she drove, I constantly would slam my foot on the ground as if I had a break.


RJ

(from recording)

Yes! And whenever I drove all she did was yell and shoot her arm out across me at every stop sign, like I was a child with my seatbelt off.


AVERY

(from recording)

SAME! And the thing is, I drive like a nana. I’m that bitch who drives 5 miles under the speed limit.


SFX: The UNKNOWN OBSERVER shifts, we hear them laugh lightly.


CHUCK

Shit... Oh my - shit.


RJ

Oh me God.


SFX: The UNKNOWN OBSERVER moves causing the leaves under them to rustle and a twig to snap.


TOLEN

Fuck.


RJ

Shhhhhhh!


RJ (CONT’D)

(from recording)

Did you hear that?


AVERY

(from recording)

Probably Chuck and Tolen fucking around.


RJ

(from recording)

Yeah... probably...


RJ (CONT’D)

(from recording)

I wonder if they found Jane yet?


AVERY

(from recording)

Shit, I hope so.


SFX: The mic is manhandled and suddenly shuts off. Avery clicks stop on playback.


17:08.314

RJ

What the hell was that?


AVERY

I don’t know, it was on one of the memory cards. I put it at the end of episode 10.


RJ

What?


AVERY

It lines up with that day.


RJ

You USED it?


CHUCK

How did... how did it... how do we have it? You were at the car the entire time?


AVERY

I don’t know, I don’t know.


TOLEN

Chuck?


CHUCK

I did not do that. Did YOU?


TOLEN

NO! ... Oh my God.


17:29.580

AVERY

Neither of you did! Here, listen this is from the same file.


SFX: Avery clicks play, a sound file begins to play.


CHUCK

(from recording)

ARE YOU KIDDING ME!


TOLEN

(from recording)

Shit, Shit, SHIT!


CHUCK

(from recording)

ARE YOU KIDDING ME RIGHT NOW!


CHUCK (CONT’D)

What the fuck?


TOLEN

Shhhhiiitt.


TOLEN (CONT’D)

(from recording)

Did you do this?


CHUCK

(from recording)

WHAT?


TOLEN

(from recording)

When you drove up here did you hit SOMETHING?


CHUCK

(from recording)

Fuck you.


TOLEN

(from recording)

FUCK YOU!


CHUCK

(from recording)

I can’t with this!


SFX: Chuck storms off.


TOLEN

(from recording)

You can’t? I won’t with this!


SFX: Avery clicks stop on playback.


AVERY

See? You guys are in this recording too.


CHUCK

Shit.


AVERY

Now I did not record this. And I know you guys did not record this because we are all in the recording. Also RJ and I were the only ones with gear and the rest of it was locked in the car.


RJ

Fuuuck.


AVERY

Okay. So I put a filter on it to get rid of all the background to try to see if I could tell who it was, but I have-I have no idea. Here.


SFX: Avery clicks play, we hear the filtered audio recording, it is mostly heavy breathing.


SFX: Avery clicks stop on playback.


18:48.150

AVERY (CONT’D)

Can anyone tell who that is? Deb? Miss Loretta? No? Nothing?


MISS LORETTA

You guys have protection?


RJ

What?


DEBBIE

Mom, stop it.


MISS LORETTA

That right there’s a threat. A threat. “I can get this close to yous’ and yous’ don’t even know it.”


DEBBIE

Mom, please. You’re scaring them.


MISS LORETTA

They should be scared!


DEBBIE

Look, I don’t wanna worry you kids, but ... she’s not completely wrong here.


MISS LORETTA

Deb, get that pearled handled one from the china cabinet. It’s tiny but it’ll do.


DEBBIE

Oh my God, mom. I’m not giving them a gun. ... But, I got bear spray? If it will stop a bear.


MISS LORETTA

What about Tommy’s beretta?


19:29.898

DEBBIE

MOM!


MISS LORETTA

You’re right. That thing's too heavy, get ‘uhm the Glock from the laundry room.


CHUCK

How many guns are in this place?


DEBBIE

Mom, no guns, okay.


RJ

Yes, thank you Miss Loretta, but we would not feel comfortable with that.


AVERY

But, if you are offering us bear spray, we’ll take it.


TOLEN

Seriously?


DEBBIE

I’ll get it.


CHUCK

I have my keychain mace.


RJ

Oh, me too... but it might be expired?


AVERY

And I have my pocket knife that I carry when I run?


TOLEN

What?


MISS LORETTA

Tolen, be a doll and grab me my pocketbook from the davenport.


19:58.150

TOLEN

The what?


AVERY

Couch, here Miss Loretta.


SFX: Avery passes Miss Loretta her purse. She begins rooting around inside it.


MISS LORETTA

Here.


TOLEN

What’s that?


MISS LORETTA

It’s a blackjack.


RJ

Is she being racist again?


CHUCK

Again?


MISS LORETTA

Here. Hold the light end like that, and swing the heavy end. Aim for the temple.


SFX: Miss Loretta hands Tolen the blackjack.


TOLEN

Uh, okay?


SFX: Debbie re-enters with 2 cans of bear spray.


DEBBIE

Here. I got 2 cans. This not a toy. That shit will blind you, so don’t be dumb.


AVERY

Thanks Deb.


TOLEN

What is happening right now?